The MGV Family

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By Peter Giling

The development of technical parts for the railroad has a long history with me.

There usually was not much time while I was travelling around the world, doing my job.

But after that period, I found that many items available in the market of Railroad equipment was either expensive or not good enough, or sometimes even both.

Slowly starting to think about developing it myself, I found that others were already thinking the same way, both in hardware as in software.

One extremely good example is the site you are looking at : Rocrail.

But also Rocrail is nothing (excusez le mot, Rob!) without good functioning hardware.

And because I was a member of Modelspoor Groep Venlo (MGV) the products of my mind slowly began to be called MGVxx, later on even grouped together as the MGV Family.

After trying to 'invent the wheel again' with the succeeding desillusions, I decided to start with LocoNet, actually first on advice of a member of MGV, who was already experiencing with Loconet materials.

In fact, in the complete set of MGV units, there are only a few that are strictly dedicated for LocoNet.

All the rest are INTERFACES, connecting to LocoNet devices, and making railroad live prettier.

Extra tip on my shoulder is that several Rocrail initiators and many users are using MGVxx hardware, sharing my enthousiasm.

The use of interfaces from the MGV-family are not restricted to using only with MGV LocoNet.

These interfaces are very well suitable for using anywhere else, with other systems.

All of these units has been made as printed circuit, assembled and tested by myself.

Where ever that was possible or necessary, I invited other people to help me testing and improving my designs.

Therefore, special thanks to Christian Wichmann, Fred Jansen, Rob Versluis and Walter Pohler, and the members of Modelspoor Groep Venlo for their help and patience, when something was not working as expected right from the first try.

Together, we made MGV-family to be a strong team!

Because the MGV needed quite a lot of these units, some of these boards are factory-made.

Facory made boards are double sided, with soldermask, through hole connections and print.

They are available at a reasonable price. See list further in this article.

LocoNet is a trademark of Digitrax, Inc.

LocoNet features

Loconet, as originated by Digitrax, is a very reliable system to control anything up and around the Model Railway Track.

Modelspoor Groep Venlo has chosen this Loconet to control a wide variety of Model Railroad Modules.

These modules started with the same size as M-Track in the Netherlands, but slowly slightly different measures has been used.

The main track, however, will still fit to M-Track.

Just like M-Track and Fremo, these modules can be assembled in various order. That was a serious problem while we were still in our 'S88 age' .

With Loconet, each sensor point is defined with its own number, regardless the position in the setup.

The Loconet I/O units are based on a design of John Jabour.

MGV decided to change the Standard Loconet RJ12 connectors to cheap and robust D-connectors.

The reasons for that are:

1) Units have to be connected / disconnected many times, which is not suitable for RJ12 connectors.

2) MGV would like to have suitable power over the cable, which Railsync is not able to provide.

In the set of Loconet units a suitable power supply is combined with the Locobuffer (MGV85).

In the latest version, it is also possible to connect a DCC/LocoNet command station (like MGV110) to MGV85, to supply the railsync signal.

Available MGV boards and parts sets

All MGV units are basicly made for D.I.Y.

But there are a few pc-boards available for almost cost-price.

If you are interested, send mail to : peter.giling@rocrail.net

Boards can also be ordered at www.modelleisenbahn-nettetal.de

Each available board is indicated.

Complete English manual

mgv-loconet_manual.pdf

This manual is still under construction, so keep it updated anytime you need to know something about MGV units.

The complete MGV family devided in groups

Computer to LocoNet

Device type number description
MGV 85 interface between RS232 and LocoNet
MGV 101 interface between Ethernet and LocoNet

From this unit you will need only one.

LocoNet in/output

Device type number description connect to
MGV50 16 bits in/out to/from LocoNet MGV50 is in fact the central unit of LocoNet.
It provides 16 programmable in-/output lines from LcoNet.
MGV-LocoNet
MGV108 3 A regulated booster with 13 free programmable in-/ouput lines from LocoNet. MGV-LocoNet
MGV110 Minibox central station for LocoNet application for keyboard display see mgv111-en
MGV123 LocoNet mobile switch board LocoNet (RJ12 connector)
MGV124 FREDI LocoNet mobile throttle LocoNet (RJ12 connector)
MGV141 Octal axle counter for direct LocoNet connection MGV-LocoNet

Interface for feed-back sensors and switches

Device type number description Connect to
MGV93 current detector with short circuit and activity signals MGV50
MGV128 8 switches for MGV50 testing MGV50
MGV133 quadruple infra red gate / reflection unit MGV50

Interface for movement (turnouts etc.) or power switching

Device type number description connect to
MGV76 Drives 4 standard turnouts with high current coils (1,5A) like Maerklin C-turnouts. MGV50
MGV77 Drives 4 standard turnouts with coils, also to be used as function switch MGV50
MGV78 Drives 4 turnouts with motors like Hoffmann or Conrad types MGV50
MGV116 motor drive for bridges, barriers , etc. MGV50
MGV120 Heavy load relay unit MGV50
MGV125 drives 8 turnouts with single (polarised) coil or dc motor MGV50
MGV126 drives 4 turnouts with single (polarised) coil or dc motor , with feed-back MGV50
MGV131 4 Bipolair Relay interface for (polarised) coil or dc motor MGV50
MGV136 drives 4 servomotors for turnouts. Provides feed-back and standard relays for frog polarisation with addional MGV137 MGV50 or stand-alone
MGV136 With a different program it is capable of handling railreoadcrossing with moving barriers. MGV50 or stand-alone
MGV81,MGv84 and MGV84s All changed to MGV136/137 If you need schematics : peter.giling@rocrail.net

Interface for led signalling

Leds do not really need any interface.

They can directly be connected to MGV50.

However read the articles itself why these units exist.

Device type number description connect to
MGV86 Led dimmer MGV50
MGV127 Led indicator interface for 8 or 16 leds MGV50
MGV129 Led indicator interface for 16 or 32 leds MGV50

Patch panels (passive HUB)

Device type number description connect to
MGV91 patch panel for LocoNet RJ12 connectors , with signalling MGV-LocoNet
RJ12 LocoNet
MGV97 LocoNet patch panel 1 x RJ12, 3 x DSub9 female, 3 x DSub9 male, 1 x supply connector DC supply 12-16V
MGV-LocoNet
RJ12 LocoNet
MGV106 Patch panel with 4 LocoNet RJ12 connectors MGV-LocoNet
RJ12 LocoNet

Boosters

Device type number description connect to
MGV105 Booster for DDX with command control from MGV50 MGV50 +
Computer(RS232)
MGV108 Booster for Railsync connection and intrigated LocoNet I/O MGV-LocoNet
MGV112 Booster for Universal use with stabilized and adjustable output Central-Station
MGV113 Booster like MGV112 but for Railsync connection (copy of Spaxbooster) LocoNet (RJ12 connector)
ORD-2 Booster for DDX like MGV105 with regulated output Computer RS232
ORD-3 Universal booster like Fremo Spaxbooster or DDX-Booster Computer RS232(DDX)
RJ12LocoNet(Spaxb)

DDX to Edits booster

Device type number description connect to
MGV98 Interface Rocrial DDX to Edits booster Computer RS232

Reverse loop controller

Device type number description connect to
MGV102 Automatic controller for reverse loop just the rails (feed-back to MGV50 optional)

Universal Led flasher

Device type number description connect to
MGV114 Unit for real flashing leds for police/fire dpt and also for high towers. MGV50(I/O) or stand alone

Stand alone servo motor controller

Device type number description connect to
MGV115 Controller for servo motor with adjustable speed and intervals stand alone
MGV50(I/O)

Time/temperature disply for buildings

link Device type number description connect to
MGV118 display for MGV119 MGV119
MGV118s display for MGV119 MGV119
MGV119 clock & temperature unit MGV118/MGV118s

Fiddle yard control

Device type number description connect to
MGV121-1 Central controller for fiddle yard MGV50
MGV121-2 Relay board with feed-backs for fiddle yard MGV121-1
MGV121-3 Keyboard + display for fiddle yard MGV121-1
MGV121-4 Postion sensor boards for fiddle yard MGV121-1
MGV121-5 Latch servo control for fiddle yard MGV121-1

Motorola to servo decoder

This unit might not really belong in this area, but it exists nevertheless.

Device type number description connect to
MGV82 Motorola decoder for 4 servo motors, acting like normal turnout decoder Motorola digital

Block diagram for LocoNet

Some units together


This picture shows the first setup- needed to start having feed-backs and turnout control (with servo's or standard coils).

Picture content
function MGV# position in picture
LocoBuffer MGV85 bottom right
LocoIo MGV50 bottom middle and left
Extended Servo control MGV84 top left
turnout coil interface MGV 77 top middle
feed-back current detector MGV59 top right

One more picture of many devices

Bottom line left to right
MGV106 Gender board
MGV50 LocoIo
MGV50 LocoIo
MGV50 LocoIo
MGV110 DCC central
MGV108 Booster
MGV85 LocoBuffer
Centre line left to right remarks
Switch panel For demo of turnout options
MGV81F Simple servo controller with feed-back replaced by MGV136
MGV84 Servo controller with feed-back replaced by MGV136/MGV137
MGV93 Current detection feed-back
MGV111 Display/keyboard for DCC central
Top line left to right
Turnout coils Maerklin K
servo motor Servo motors Top Line ES-05 JR
Switch For change from 2 to 3 rail on HO-demotrack
Trafo Ring coil Transformer sec 18V 2 x 2,75 A

For all other units , please refer to the apropriate description.

MGV Loconet cable

Connector J2 Loconet DB9 female

The best suitable cable for this connection is cat5 Ethernet cable.

DB9 Pin LocoNet function Ethernet cable colour
1 GND blue + blue/white
2 Railsync - orange/white
3 Loconet signal green
4 Railsync + orange
5 +V supply brown
6 GND green/white
7 n.c. not connected
8 n.c. not connected
9 +V supply brown/white

To avoid any problems, connect the wires according this list.

Changing wire colours could cause errors.

Standard full wired male to female 'extension' Rs232 cables are allowed, but up to a certain limit.

It is never experienced how many can be used, but a few do not disturb the communication.

This type of cable is by far not able to conduct the full 3 Amp of the MGV85!

Connection MGV50 directly to Intellibox.

Intellibox can also command a few MGV50 units, without the use of MGV85 LocoBuffer.

For that case the Intellibox has connector LocoNet T.

You can NOT use LocoNet __B__ connector!

All you do is use a 9-pole female d-connector and an RJ12 connector and three wires (loose or in cable).

Connection list of this cable:

D-connector 9-pole RJ12 connector function
pin # pin#
1 to 3 or 4 ground
3 to 2 or 5 signal
5 to 1 or 6 +12V

Connection cable MGV50 <> Interface

Two possible options can be used for this connection. (see picture below)

Option 1 (left on picture)

This cable should be made with wire 0,25mm.

Qty Materials supplier
2 PSK254/10W www.reichelt.de
1 PSK-Kontakte (set of 20 pcs) www.reichelt.de
1 Psk-Crimpzange www.reichelt.de
Attention!:

Wires are NOT crossed or mirrored i.e. connect pt 1 to pt 1 , etc.

Option 2 (right on picture)

Flatcable 10×2 + connectors. The side without the notch will fit easily.

Qty Materials supplier
2 PFL 20 www.reichelt.de
1 Flatcable AWG 28-20G 3M www.reichelt.de
1 Crimpzange MWZ 214 www.reichelt.de
Attention!:

Wires are NOT crossed i.e. connect pt 1 to pt 1 , etc.

Both options are used here

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