The MGV Family
| By Peter Giling |
|---|
The development of technical parts for the railroad has a long history with me.
There usually was not much time while I was travelling around the world, doing my job.
But after that period, I found that many items available in the market of Railroad equipment was either expensive or not good enough, or sometimes even both.
Slowly starting to think about developing it myself, I found that others were already thinking the same way, both in hardware as in software.
One extremely good example is the site you are looking at : Rocrail.
But also Rocrail is nothing (excusez le mot, Rob!) without good functioning hardware.
And because I was a member of Modelspoor Groep Venlo (MGV) the products of my mind slowly began to be called MGVxx, later on even grouped together as the MGV Family.
After trying to 'invent the wheel again' with the succeeding desillusions, I decided to start with LocoNet, actually first on advice of a member of MGV, who was already experiencing with Loconet materials.
In fact, in the complete set of MGV units, there are only a few that are strictly dedicated for LocoNet.
All the rest are INTERFACES, connecting to LocoNet devices, and making railroad live prettier.
Extra tip on my shoulder is that several Rocrail initiators and many users are using MGVxx hardware, sharing my enthousiasm.
The use of interfaces from the MGV-family are not restricted to using only with MGV LocoNet.
These interfaces are very well suitable for using anywhere else, with other systems.
All of these units has been made as printed circuit, assembled and tested by myself.
Where ever that was possible or necessary, I invited other people to help me testing and improving my designs.
Therefore, special thanks to Christian Wichmann, Fred Jansen, Rob Versluis and Walter Pohler, and the members of Modelspoor Groep Venlo for their help and patience, when something was not working as expected right from the first try.
Together, we made MGV-family to be a strong team!
Because the MGV needed quite a lot of these units, some of these boards are factory-made.
Facory made boards are double sided, with soldermask, through hole connections and print.
They are available at a reasonable price. See list further in this article.
| LocoNet is a trademark of Digitrax, Inc. |
LocoNet features
Loconet, as originated by Digitrax, is a very reliable system to control anything up and around the Model Railway Track.
Modelspoor Groep Venlo has chosen this Loconet to control a wide variety of Model Railroad Modules.
These modules started with the same size as M-Track in the Netherlands, but slowly slightly different measures has been used.
The main track, however, will still fit to M-Track.
Just like M-Track and Fremo, these modules can be assembled in various order. That was a serious problem while we were still in our 'S88 age' .
With Loconet, each sensor point is defined with its own number, regardless the position in the setup.
The Loconet I/O units are based on a design of John Jabour.
MGV decided to change the Standard Loconet RJ12 connectors to cheap and robust D-connectors.
The reasons for that are:
1) Units have to be connected / disconnected many times, which is not suitable for RJ12 connectors.
2) MGV would like to have suitable power over the cable, which Railsync is not able to provide.
In the set of Loconet units a suitable power supply is combined with the Locobuffer (MGV85).
In the latest version, it is also possible to connect a DCC/LocoNet command station (like MGV110) to MGV85, to supply the railsync signal.
Available MGV boards and parts sets
All MGV units are basicly made for D.I.Y.
But there are a few pc-boards available for almost cost-price.
If you are interested, send mail to : peter.giling@rocrail.net
Boards can also be ordered at www.modelleisenbahn-nettetal.de
Each available board is indicated.
Complete English manual
This manual is still under construction, so keep it updated anytime you need to know something about MGV units.
The complete MGV family devided in groups
Computer to LocoNet
| Device type number | description |
|---|---|
| MGV 85 | interface between RS232 and LocoNet |
| MGV 101 | interface between Ethernet and LocoNet |
From this unit you will need only one.
LocoNet in/output
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV50 | 16 bits in/out to/from LocoNet MGV50 is in fact the central unit of LocoNet. It provides 16 programmable in-/output lines from LcoNet. | MGV-LocoNet |
| MGV108 | 3 A regulated booster with 13 free programmable in-/ouput lines from LocoNet. | MGV-LocoNet |
| MGV110 | Minibox central station for LocoNet application | for keyboard display see mgv111-en |
| MGV123 | LocoNet mobile switch board | LocoNet (RJ12 connector) |
| MGV124 FREDI | LocoNet mobile throttle | LocoNet (RJ12 connector) |
| MGV141 | Octal axle counter for direct LocoNet connection | MGV-LocoNet |
Interface for feed-back sensors and switches
| Device type number | description | Connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV93 | current detector with short circuit and activity signals | MGV50 |
| MGV128 | 8 switches for MGV50 testing | MGV50 |
| MGV133 | quadruple infra red gate / reflection unit | MGV50 |
Interface for movement (turnouts etc.) or power switching
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV76 | Drives 4 standard turnouts with high current coils (1,5A) like Maerklin C-turnouts. | MGV50 |
| MGV77 | Drives 4 standard turnouts with coils, also to be used as function switch | MGV50 |
| MGV78 | Drives 4 turnouts with motors like Hoffmann or Conrad types | MGV50 |
| MGV116 | motor drive for bridges, barriers , etc. | MGV50 |
| MGV120 | Heavy load relay unit | MGV50 |
| MGV125 | drives 8 turnouts with single (polarised) coil or dc motor | MGV50 |
| MGV126 | drives 4 turnouts with single (polarised) coil or dc motor , with feed-back | MGV50 |
| MGV131 | 4 Bipolair Relay interface for (polarised) coil or dc motor | MGV50 |
| MGV136 | drives 4 servomotors for turnouts. Provides feed-back and standard relays for frog polarisation with addional MGV137 | MGV50 or stand-alone |
| MGV136 | With a different program it is capable of handling railreoadcrossing with moving barriers. | MGV50 or stand-alone |
| MGV81,MGv84 and MGV84s | All changed to MGV136/137 | If you need schematics : peter.giling@rocrail.net |
Interface for led signalling
Leds do not really need any interface.
They can directly be connected to MGV50.
However read the articles itself why these units exist.
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV86 | Led dimmer | MGV50 |
| MGV127 | Led indicator interface for 8 or 16 leds | MGV50 |
| MGV129 | Led indicator interface for 16 or 32 leds | MGV50 |
Patch panels (passive HUB)
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV91 | patch panel for LocoNet RJ12 connectors , with signalling | MGV-LocoNet RJ12 LocoNet |
| MGV97 | LocoNet patch panel 1 x RJ12, 3 x DSub9 female, 3 x DSub9 male, 1 x supply connector | DC supply 12-16V MGV-LocoNet RJ12 LocoNet |
| MGV106 | Patch panel with 4 LocoNet RJ12 connectors | MGV-LocoNet RJ12 LocoNet |
Boosters
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV105 | Booster for DDX with command control from MGV50 | MGV50 + Computer(RS232) |
| MGV108 | Booster for Railsync connection and intrigated LocoNet I/O | MGV-LocoNet |
| MGV112 | Booster for Universal use with stabilized and adjustable output | Central-Station |
| MGV113 | Booster like MGV112 but for Railsync connection (copy of Spaxbooster) | LocoNet (RJ12 connector) |
| ORD-2 | Booster for DDX like MGV105 with regulated output | Computer RS232 |
| ORD-3 | Universal booster like Fremo Spaxbooster or DDX-Booster | Computer RS232(DDX) RJ12LocoNet(Spaxb) |
DDX to Edits booster
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV98 | Interface Rocrial DDX to Edits booster | Computer RS232 |
Reverse loop controller
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV102 | Automatic controller for reverse loop | just the rails (feed-back to MGV50 optional) |
Universal Led flasher
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV114 | Unit for real flashing leds for police/fire dpt and also for high towers. | MGV50(I/O) or stand alone |
Stand alone servo motor controller
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV115 | Controller for servo motor with adjustable speed and intervals | stand alone MGV50(I/O) |
Time/temperature disply for buildings
| link | Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|---|
| MGV118 | display for MGV119 | MGV119 | |
| MGV118s | display for MGV119 | MGV119 | |
| MGV119 | clock & temperature unit | MGV118/MGV118s |
Fiddle yard control
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV121-1 | Central controller for fiddle yard | MGV50 |
| MGV121-2 | Relay board with feed-backs for fiddle yard | MGV121-1 |
| MGV121-3 | Keyboard + display for fiddle yard | MGV121-1 |
| MGV121-4 | Postion sensor boards for fiddle yard | MGV121-1 |
| MGV121-5 | Latch servo control for fiddle yard | MGV121-1 |
Motorola to servo decoder
This unit might not really belong in this area, but it exists nevertheless.
| Device type number | description | connect to |
|---|---|---|
| MGV82 | Motorola decoder for 4 servo motors, acting like normal turnout decoder | Motorola digital |
Block diagram for LocoNet
Some units together

This picture shows the first setup- needed to start having feed-backs and turnout control (with servo's or standard coils).
| Picture content | ||
|---|---|---|
| function | MGV# | position in picture |
| LocoBuffer | MGV85 | bottom right |
| LocoIo | MGV50 | bottom middle and left |
| Extended Servo control | MGV84 | top left |
| turnout coil interface | MGV 77 | top middle |
| feed-back current detector | MGV59 | top right |
One more picture of many devices
| Bottom line left to right | |
|---|---|
| MGV106 | Gender board |
| MGV50 | LocoIo |
| MGV50 | LocoIo |
| MGV50 | LocoIo |
| MGV110 | DCC central |
| MGV108 | Booster |
| MGV85 | LocoBuffer |
| Centre line left to right | remarks | |
|---|---|---|
| Switch panel | For demo of turnout options | |
| MGV81F | Simple servo controller with feed-back | replaced by MGV136 |
| MGV84 | Servo controller with feed-back | replaced by MGV136/MGV137 |
| MGV93 | Current detection feed-back | |
| MGV111 | Display/keyboard for DCC central | |
| Top line left to right | |
|---|---|
| Turnout coils Maerklin K | |
| servo motor | Servo motors Top Line ES-05 JR |
| Switch | For change from 2 to 3 rail on HO-demotrack |
| Trafo | Ring coil Transformer sec 18V 2 x 2,75 A |
For all other units , please refer to the apropriate description.
MGV Loconet cable
Connector J2 Loconet DB9 female
The best suitable cable for this connection is cat5 Ethernet cable.
| DB9 Pin | LocoNet function | Ethernet cable colour |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | GND | blue + blue/white |
| 2 | Railsync - | orange/white |
| 3 | Loconet signal | green |
| 4 | Railsync + | orange |
| 5 | +V supply | brown |
| 6 | GND | green/white |
| 7 | n.c. | not connected |
| 8 | n.c. | not connected |
| 9 | +V supply | brown/white |
To avoid any problems, connect the wires according this list.
Changing wire colours could cause errors.
Standard full wired male to female 'extension' Rs232 cables are allowed, but up to a certain limit.
It is never experienced how many can be used, but a few do not disturb the communication.
This type of cable is by far not able to conduct the full 3 Amp of the MGV85!
Connection MGV50 directly to Intellibox.
Intellibox can also command a few MGV50 units, without the use of MGV85 LocoBuffer.
For that case the Intellibox has connector LocoNet T.
You can NOT use LocoNet __B__ connector!
All you do is use a 9-pole female d-connector and an RJ12 connector and three wires (loose or in cable).
Connection list of this cable:
| D-connector 9-pole | RJ12 connector | function | |
|---|---|---|---|
| pin # | pin# | ||
| 1 | to | 3 or 4 | ground |
| 3 | to | 2 or 5 | signal |
| 5 | to | 1 or 6 | +12V |
Connection cable MGV50 <> Interface
Two possible options can be used for this connection. (see picture below)
Option 1 (left on picture)
This cable should be made with wire 0,25mm.
| Qty | Materials | supplier |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | PSK254/10W | www.reichelt.de |
| 1 | PSK-Kontakte (set of 20 pcs) | www.reichelt.de |
| 1 | Psk-Crimpzange | www.reichelt.de |
Attention!:
Wires are NOT crossed or mirrored i.e. connect pt 1 to pt 1 , etc.
Option 2 (right on picture)
Flatcable 10×2 + connectors. The side without the notch will fit easily.
| Qty | Materials | supplier |
|---|---|---|
| 2 | PFL 20 | www.reichelt.de |
| 1 | Flatcable AWG 28-20G 3M | www.reichelt.de |
| 1 | Crimpzange MWZ 214 | www.reichelt.de |
Attention!:
Wires are NOT crossed i.e. connect pt 1 to pt 1 , etc.
Both options are used here
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